Q: When will the brace for the OEM stock steering boxes be available ??
A: We have a new version that will fit all steering box styles - Borgeson 800116, Borgeson 800121, Borgeson 800122, Mopar 08.5 box, and the factory Delphi box, all year models from 03-12. It is expected to be available on the site May 31st, 2014.
Q: I recently had the steering gearbox replaced in my 2012 RAM 2500 4X4 (Cummins, A/T) because of sloppy sector shaft issues. The factory dealer replaced it with a gearbox that has 6 sector shaft top cover bolts instead of 4. I believe that this is the MOPAR steering box upgrade kit (w/ pitman arm) part # 68170214AA.
Knowing this, will your DOR Steering Brace, part # 1019, fit correctly? Your dorp down menu gives the choices of FACTORY BOX, MOPAR 08.5 BOX, and the other two (Redhead and Borgeson) which I assume are not what I have.
I really want your product, as it seems to be the logical choice for a steering brace that will not cause more problems. If the MOPAR 08.5 box is the same as my MOPAR part # 68170214AA, then that is the choice I will need. If there is another steering box out there for 2012 2500s that has 6 bolts on the top cover, then I may need some help figuring out which choice to make.
Please reach out to me by phone or email when you can. As soon as I know the answer, I will immediately order the right part from you. I just had the entire steering system (gearbox, pitman arm, and all linkages) replaced by the dealer, and I want to beef it up before I wear it out again. The sad part is that I never leave pavement with this truck, and I want to fix these issues before I start going off-road and get stuck 20 miles from hardball.
Thanks in advance. Have a good day.
A: Thank you for asking. The Mopar 08.5 box can have either 4 bolts or 6 bolts on top. It's the same box, just made in different countries. There is more info on this on our forum under the FAQ section. From a steering brace standpoint, they are both the exact same box, so you'll just select the Mopar 08.5+ option. Our brace really does help keep the steering box from having the same issue that you just went through - regardless of how big the new boxes are, they are not built to have any side loading on the sector shaft. There is not enough internal support to handle that pressure. That's why it is so important to run a steering brace. Let us know if you have any other questions.
Q: Will this brace work with the OEM power steering box?
A: This version only fits the Borgeson 800116 or 800121 steering boxes; we will have a separate part number for the factory 03-08 boxes when those are available. They do not interchange, as the Borgeson boxes are larger than the factory box.
Q: In the near future I will be upgrading my steering linkage to the newer "T" linkage. At this time I'm only planning to upgrade to the borgeson box, shaft and box stabilizer on my 2005 Ram 3500. Will this stabilizer interfere with the upgraded linkage or can it be used with both the old and new linkage set ups?
A: It will fit with any steering linkage without any interference. The pitman arm sits far enough behind the brace that the drag link would never come close to touching the brace. There is plenty of room for any steering setup. Our HD T-style setup fits really well, check out part number 1013 on here.
Q: Will this fit the 2012 power wagon ?
A: This brace doesn't fit the 2009+ trucks with the larger factory Mopar box; we will have a new version on the site soon that will fit the 2009-2012 Ram trucks, as well as the earlier models that have upgraded to the Mopar box. This particular brace fits the Borgeson box only.
Q: Do I need to change my stock Pitman Arm on my 2006 Dodge Power Wagon in order to install this brace? I see in the photos that the brace is installed on a PW but it is described as having a drop Pitman arm.
A: You do not need to change your pitman arm for the brace to fit. It works with all steering boxes and all pitman arms. The significance of the drop pitman arm in that picture is that we made a custom drop pitman arm to fit the Borgeson 800116 steering box, which has been discontinued for a year or two. That's the only reason the drop pitman arm is even mentioned in that photo.
Q: I have a 2004 3500 4x4 that I recently upgraded With the Borgeson 800123 Delphi steering gear unit. Which steering brace do I need?
A: You'll want the Borgeson Box option.
Q: HOW DO I IDENTIFY MY GEAR BOX?
A: That's the hardest part about ordering the brace. There are a couple of things we look for when determining which box a truck has. One is the size of the sector shaft nut (pitman arm nut). If it's about 1.25" wide, you have a factory box or one built similarly. If it's about 1.75" wide, then you have the larger 4th gen style box, which can be from a few different manufacturers. The bottom line with our brace is we need to know what size pitman arm nut you use, that will determine which hardware pack we need to send for 99.9% of customers. If you get the brace and the hardware is the wrong size or the brace doesn't line up, we can swap out parts with you to get you what you need.
Q: Can the brace for the oem steering box be made to accept a upgraded 8.5 mopar steering box at a later date easily? ie: purchase of hardware kit.
A: Absolutely, all you would need is the larger sector shaft and split lock washer. No problem at all. Give us a call and we can get you what you need.
Q: I have changed my steering box to the mopar 8.5 and i need to know if i can buy just the needed hardware from you as i now cannot use this brace
A: Yeah, that's no problem. All you need is the larger sector shaft extension and the split lock to go with it. Give us a call and we can get it out for you anytime. 855-900-9367 ext 1 Thanks
Q: I have a 2006 power wagon, which of your braces will fit it? As far as I know my truck is stock steering components.
A: If you have the factory steering box, then just select the factory 3rd gen option. If you get the brace and find that the sector shaft doesn't fit, let us know and we'll swap you out for the larger sector shaft. More than likely, you have the factory 3rd gen box in there.
Q: Will a reman box be just as tight as a new box? Would you suggest a 4th gen box into a 3rd gen for a long term solution? Will a reman/new 3rd gen box last a long time if i use this brace? first 3rd gen and just trying to fix it correctly! Thanks!
A: A reman box is a gamble, you can get a good one or a bad one. It really depends on who rebuilt it. But to be honest, even buying a "new" box from a dealer is a crapshoot anymore since most are made in China. For a 3rd gen, we recommend a PSC box or a Redhead box. You can get the 4th gen retrofit box and that's a good upgrade too. Adding a brace to any of them is a smart move, it just helps keep the sector shaft from moving side to side, which is the biggest reason these boxes wear out in the first place. Our brace will help your new steering box last much longer, and it will make the steering tighter regardless of which box you have.
Q: If I buy a brace for a stock box but eventually upgrade to a different steering box do I need a whole new brace?
A: The only part you might need is a new sector shaft extension (the machined piece we make), the rest of the brace is the same for all of the boxes on 3rd and 4th gen trucks. So this brace can still be used no matter what steering box you get later on.
Q: I HAVE AN '08 PW. WHATS THE BEST METHOD TO DETERMINE IF ITS AN '08 OR '08.5? I'D LIKE TO PURCHASE THE STEERING BRACE. FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, THIS WILL FIT WITHOUT INTERFERING WITH THE TIE-ROD/FACTORY WINCH?
ALSO, WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE 'DEATH WOBBLE'? THANKS.
A: The easiest thing to do is measure the pitman arm nut. If it's 1.25" wide, it's the smaller 03-08 box. If it's closer to 1.75" then it's the 08.5+ box. Our brace was designed around the Power Wagon platform, so it clears the sway bar and winch and everything else no problem. Fixing death wobble can be a variety of things, basically you'll want to check the front end over real well and replace anything that has play in it. Track bar, steering box, steering linkage, hubs, ball joints, control arm bushings, bad alignment, and low tire pressure can all contribute to death wobble. The most common issue is the track bar, so that is what most people upgrade first. The best way to make sure you're spending your money on fixing the problem is to have someone turn the steering wheel back and forth while the truck is running, and just watch/listen to all of your front end components. Look for tie rod ends popping in and out of their cups, the track bar shifting side to side, the knuckles moving up and down on the ball joints, etc. It's the fastest way to diagnose the front end.
Q: Is the redhead gear box option for the redhead 3rd gen reman box or the redhead “extreme duty” 08.5 upgrade box.
A: That option is for the standard Redhead box which is just the 03-08 box, if their extreme duty box is an 08.5+ box then that is the brace you would need. Select the 08.5+ box option and you'll get the correct hardware for that steering box.
Q: Do you have any brace option similar to this for the PSC Hydro Steering Box for a 3rd Gen? Thanks
A: The PSC box is the same whether it's tapped for hydro or not, it will depend on which model number PSC box you have. They have changed the boxes a few times and the older ones work with our brace as-is, the newer boxes need our 3rd/4th gen PSC brace which is available on the site, part number 1090. Let us know if you have any other questions!
Q: Factory 2018 Power Wagon with no mods, which of the options would I need for this steering box. Asking just to make sure. Thank you. Lynn
A: You need part number 1038 for the 4.5/5th gen trucks, that one will have the correct hardware for your truck. Let us know if you have any other questions.
Q: Hello. It's included this item in the package: DOR HEAVY DUTY STEERING KIT, BOLT-IN, STABILIZER INCLUDED?
A: The steering brace and steering stabilizer are two very different things. Some companies call a brace (which supports the sector shaft on the steering box) a "stabilizer" for some reason, but that's not what it is. It is a brace, it braces the steering box. Our steering kit has an option to include the Fox steering stabilizer, which is a shock that helps control the side to side movement of the tie rod. If you want all three of those items, you'll need to buy part number 1013-fox and this 3rd gen steering brace as two separate items.
Q: Do you guys ever offer free shipping? My budget is 200$ for a brace but with shipping it goes over so can’t buy it yet. I know sometimes you have promo codes around holidays or even sales going which I guess I could wait till then but if there would be any way to get it for 200$ I’d order ASAP
(3rd gen Ram 3500 with redhead gear)
A: We do run sales occasionally, but we don't have anything planned at this time. Normally it's a discount on the product price rather than free shipping, but we never know what the sale will be (or when it will be) until that day. They aren't announced ahead of time. Just keep an eye on the site around major holidays. Thanks!
Q: Which model should be selected to fit a redhead(mopar upgrade 6bolt) for a 2005?
A: A redhead box is a factory box externally, so if you have the mopar upgraded box and redhead has added an internal bearing, you'll still select the Mopar 08.5+ option.
Q: WHICH OPTION DO I CHOOSE WITH THE REDHEAD 2879U MOPAR UPGRADE?
A: Even though it's rebuilt by Redhead, it's still a Mopar upgrade box. So you'll choose the Mopar 08.5 option. Redhead only modifies the gear box internally, they don't do anything to the outside and that's the only part we are concerned about so we can send the correct hardware.
Q: How do I know if my 2007.5 dodge ram 3500 4x4's steering box by redhead is in the stock configuration that came with my truck? I want to order the 3rd gen one sided steering brace you sell. Thanks
A: The easiest thing to do is measure the pitman arm nut. If it's about 1.25" across, get the stock 3rd gen brace. If it's about 1.75" across, get the Mopar 08.5 brace. That's the only difference as far as the brace is concerned - we just need to know which hardware pack to send.
Q: Will this brace work with redhead 2879 box?
A: Yes, it works with all steering boxes except the PSC big bore boxes.
Q: My truck is an 08. How would I find out if it’s an 08.5?
A: The easiest way to tell is by measuring the pitman arm nut. If it's about 1.25" across, you have the stock 2008 box. If the nut is about 1.75" across, you have the larger 08.5 box.
Q: I’m putting the PSC SG853 steering box with assist Kit on my 2006 Dodge Cummins 2500. They told me they are unaware of any box brace that will work with their Mopar box. I see you list different boxes for my year. Will your brace Made for the Mopar box fit my application?
A: We have a specific brace for the PSC boxes, look up part number 1090. It's made for their steering boxes.
Q: Is this in stock currently? Have the 08.5+ box. Waiting to hear status before placing my order as I can’t wait a long time if it’s back ordered.
A: As of today 8/17/20, we have quite a few of them in stock. These are never backordered long if we do run out, which is pretty rare.